BRFC Meeting - 31st October, 2007


The BRFC met at the Fishmongers Hall,
London on 31 October 2007. Present were Ken Ball (Chairman and National Federation of Anglers), David Rowe (Secretary), Chris Clark (National Federation of Sea Anglers), Len Le Page (Guernsey Record Fish Committee), Oliver Crimmen (Natural History Museum), Scientific Advisor, Nigel Hewlett (Environment Agency), Scientific Advisor, Ian Epps (National Federation of Anglers), Mike Heylin (Specialist Anglers Alliance) & Andy Nellist (Specialist Anglers Alliance).

 

The following claims were ratified by the committee:

 

Species                    Weight                   Captor             Date Caught & Location                 Previous Record.

 

Coarse Fish                  9lbs 5 ozs                 Mr Andy                     27-May-07                                              9lbs 2ozs

Chub                                  4.224 kg                      Maker                           Freshwater Lake, Surrey

(Leuciscus cephalus) 

Coarse Fish                     9lbs 3 ozs                  Mr Steve                      03-May-07                                                    9lbs 2ozs

Chub - Interim                  4.167 kg                     White                           Southern Stillwater

(Leuciscus cephalus) 

Coarse Fish                     21lb 5 oz                    Mr James                    24-Jun-07                                                    19lbs 5ozs 8drms

Zander                               9.667 kg                     Benfield                       River Severn at Upper Load Lock

(Sander lucioperca)   

Sea Fish                            6lb 9oz 7drm            Mr Raymond               28-Apr-07                                                     4lbs 14ozs 4drms

Bream Couch's Sea       2.968 kg                     Falliaze                        Boat off Guernsey, West Coast

(Pagrus pagrus)          

Sea Fish - Boat                3lbs 4oz 14 drm       Mr Garry                       28-May-06                                                    2lbs 2ozs

Sole-Lemon                      1.5 kg                         Newcombe                 off Teignmouth, Devon

(Microstomus kitt)                                                                                     

Sea Fish - Mini Specie                                       Mr Geoffrey                 11-Nov-06                                                    Sets Record

Goby - Common                  1 gm                       Green                          Beeleigh Lock, Blackwater & Chelmer

(Pomatoschistus microps)                                                                       Canal

Sea Fish - Mini Species  12oz 11drms          Mrs Toni                      24-Sep-05                                                   12 oz 1drm

Wrasse  Corkwing            360 grms                Pay                               Off Portland Bill

(Crenilabrus melops)

Sea Fish - Shore             1lb 4 oz                     Mr Owen                      10-Oct-07                                                     Sets Record

Blue Runner                       567 gms                  Tinklin                          Glenthorne Beach, Lynmouth, Devon

(Caranx crysos)           

Sea Fish - Shore             2lb 2oz 9drm            Mr Ben                         19-Sep-04                                                   Sets Record

Guinean Amberjack        980 gms                   Adams                         The Lizard, Cornwall

(Seriola carpenteri)    

Sea Fish -Shore              1lb 7oz 12drm          Mr Colin                       29-Aug-07                                                    Sets Record

Almaco Jack                     673 gms                   Torode                         West Coast Guernsey

(Seriola rivioliana)      

Sea Fish -Shore              3lbs 8oz 8drms       Mr David                      17-Aug-05                                                    3lbs 0oz 4drms

Mullet-Golden Grey          1.601 kg                    Woolcombe                Christchurch Harbour

(Liza aurata)                

Notes from the meeting:-

 

1/  Other claims considered by the committee:-

 

A claim to set a new record for the game fish species Pacific Pink Salmon (Orcorhynchus gorbuscha) by Mr Louis Hunter for a fish caught in the River Tweed Scotland on 21 July 2007 was deferred pending further information on the accuracy of the scales used to weigh the fish.

 

A claim to set a new boat caught record for a Striped Mullet by Mr David Hobbs for a fish weighing 2lb 2oz 10drms was considered but rejected on scientific advice that Striped Mullet is in fact an alternative name for the Red Mullet - (Mullis surmuletus) and the boat record for this species stood at 3lb 7oz.

 

2/   Review of Species on the Freshwater List

 

The committee agreed that it was important that the British Freshwater List was maintained in a manner that promoted conservation. Records would not be maintained where to do so might encourage illegal introduction of fish and  the criteria for a species being on the list therefore needed to be defined.

 

The committee agreed that the minimum criteria for inclusion of a species should be that postulated by the late Alwynne Wheeler i.e. “that there must be a self-sustaining UK population with multiple year classes present”

 

Three species currently on the British List failed to meet that criteria:

 

CARP (Grass) (Ctenopharyngodon idella)                     No self-sustaining UK population

CATFISH (Bullhead, black) (Ameiurus melas)              No known UK population

WALLEYE (Stizostedion vitreum)                               No known UK population

 

The committee agreed that the existing records for these fish will be left on the list but no new claims will be considered.

 

The Freshwater Committee also expressed concern over the inclusion of:

 

(i)          species which had self-sustaining populations but where those populations appeared to have resulted entirely from accidental or illegal introductions; and 

(ii)        ornamental species.

 

The Freshwater Sub Committee will consider this problem further and report back to the next meeting of the BRFC in March 2008.

 

3/  Use of DNA for Identification of Species

 

The Committee discussed progress on the use of DNA to confirm the species of a fish where there was the possibility of hybridisation.

 

In addition to Crucian Carp, genetic profiles had now been developed for Roach and Rudd. The committee was keen to use DNA testing in order to avoid the identification problems that exist when trying to determine species from photographic evidence.

 

The problem with DNA testing remains how to collect a sample and work in this regard, which had already involved consultation with the Home Office, was continuing.

 

 

4/  Recognition for saltwater fish or game fish whose weight had been calculated

 

The committee were aware of the increase in the conservation practise of measuring fish and returning them to the sea.  These measurements could be applied to a formulae to calculate an approximate weight of certain species, mainly tope and others of the shark family and there was a view that these fish should be recognised.

 

The Committee considered the possibility of maintaining records of fish measured in this way but agreed that there were various problems with doing so not least the fact that all such formulae provided only a very approximate weight even if measurements themselves were accurate. It should remain the choice of the captor as to whether having established that a fish was potentially a record they then took steps to accurately weigh the fish and claim the record.

 

 

The next meeting of the full committee is scheduled for March 2008.

 

 

Note for editors – see attached sheet

 

 

 

 

 

Notes for editors:

 

 

Aims and Objects of BRFC

The Committee exists to recognise and publish record weights of both fresh and salt water fish caught on rod and line by fair angling methods in the waters of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Channel Islands, and aims:

§         To provide an adjudicating body to which marine and freshwater anglers may submit claims for record fish taken by fair rod and line angling.

§         To investigate all such record claims to the fullest possible extent and maintain a permanent record of such investigations.

§         To establish and maintain accurately a list of British fish, marine and freshwater, of record size and to publish this list frequently and make it readily available to all interested persons.

 

The activities of the Committee are voluntary, and claims are considered and adjudicated upon, only on the basis that the Committee shall be under no obligation whatsoever to claimants, that its decisions shall be final, and it shall not be obliged to give reasons for its decisions.

 

 

For further information please contact;

 

 

David Rowe - Secretary

British Record (Rod Caught) Fish Committee

Level 5 Hamlyn House

Mardle Way

Buckfastleigh

Devon TQ11 ONS

 

Tel: (01364) 644489

Fax: (01364) 644486

e-mail dr@nfsa.org.uk